Joe Brewer: Consilience and the Indigenous Third World | Benjamin Freud, Ph.D.

April 28, 2023

What would it take to bring about a world that weaves modernity and ancient wisdoms?

In this episode, I speak with Joe Brewer. Joe is the co-founder of the Design School for Regenerating Earth. He has a background in physics, math, philosophy, atmospheric science, complexity research, and cognitive linguistics. Joe was the co-founder and research director of Culture2 Inc., a culture design lab for social good. He is a former fellow of the Rockridge Institute, a think tank founded by George Lakoff. We discuss:

🥥 The indigenous notion of Third World, which brings together the best of Western science and indigenous knowledge;

🥥 How everything happens somewhere, and that somewhere is connected to somewhere else, creating a fabric of time and space and opening up spaces for bringing about the futures we imagine;

🥥 How composting the current dominant system allows for new life and new ways of being to emerge and grow.

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Benjamin Freud, Ph.D.

Benjamin Freud, Ph.D. is the co-founder of Coconut Thinking, an advisory that supports schools and learning organizations to co-create, co-develop, co-stress test, and co-implement ideas that nurture the conditions for emergent learning. Benjamin is also the Head of Upper School at Green School, Bali. He was previously the Whole School Leader of Learning and Teaching at Prem Tinsulanonda International School in Thailand. He was the Academic Coordinator at Misk Schools, one of the most prestigious and high-profile school in the kingdom. In 2018-2019, he was also the Head of Upper Primary and Middle School at Misk. Prior to this, he was Vice-Principal of the Middle School and High School at the Harbour School in Hong Kong. He holds a Ph.D. in History, an MSc in Education, an MBA, an MA in International Relations, and a BA in International Affairs. Benjamin was born and grew up in Paris, France. He moved to the U.S. when he was 15 and spent 11 years there in different cities before living in the U.K., Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, and now Bali, Indonesia. He started his career in consulting for Internet start-ups in Silicon Valley in the late 1990s, working with people whose ambitions were no less than to change the world. This experience had a profound effect on Benjamin's outlook on education, innovation, and entrepreneurship.